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Poster: ganges Date: Oct 8, 2009 12:32am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: The Stranger (Two Souls in Communion)

This song has recently touched me again and I felt like mentioning it one more time (after a search I just saw that it has been discussed here before, like almost anything!) But I do miss some threads and maybe others do, too, at times.
I wasn’t aware Pigpen had also written this song, by far my favourite of his. I have to admit I’m not a huge Pigpen fan and I know I’m in the minority here (not saying that I don't like him).

I just recently listened to 2 outstanding versions: 3-23 and 5-24, any opinions about which one is the “best”?

The Stranger (Two Souls in Communion)
Lyrics: Ron McKernan
Music: Ron McKernan

Played by the Grateful Dead a dozen times in 1972, with Pigpen singing the lead vocals. Until recently, it wasn't entirely clear whether or not this was a Pigpen original, or what the title was - most setlists had the title as just "Two Souls In Communion". But when it was first released on a Grateful Dead album (as one of the bonus tracks on "Europe '72" on the box set The Golden Road (1965-1972), the title was given as "The Stranger," with Pigpen confirmed as the author .

It is also mentioned in the liner notes for So Many Roads:
In Europe [Pigpen] gave his all, and even introduced a pair of tunes he'd written - the jaunty "Chinatown Shuffle" ... and the gospel-tinged "Two Souls In Communion"


03/21/72- Academy of Music - New York City, NY
03/22/72- Academy of Music - New York City, NY
03/23/72- Academy Of Music - New York City, NY
03/27/72- Academy Of Music - New York City, NY
03/28/72- Academy Of Music - New York City, NY
04/26/72- Jahrhundert Halle - Frankfurt, XWest Germany
05/04/72- Olympia Theater - Paris, XFrance
05/10/72- Concertgebouw - Amsterdam, XNetherlands
05/11/72- Civic Hall - Rotterdam, XNetherlands
05/23/72- The Strand Lyceum - London, XEngland
05/26/72- The Strand Lyceum - London, XEngland

Here’s some more written by LIA a while back:

There were 13 played.
Fortunately, four have been released -
3/28/72 - Dick's Picks 30
4/26/72 - expanded Europe '72 bonus track
5/24/72 - Rockin' the Rhein bonus track (before this release, this part of the show was unknown)
5/26/72 - Steppin' Out

Of the Academy of Music shows - we have 3/21 and 3/23 in soundboard. Most of 3/22 and 3/26 are sadly unavailable. 3/27 (and a chunk of 3/25, but missing the end) are on dreadful audience tapes. All of them are in the vault, and a few bits were played on the dead.net taper's section - if any run of shows is crying out for a Road Trips treatment, this is, especially 3/26.

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Poster: Finster Baby Date: Oct 8, 2009 5:27am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The Stranger (Two Souls in Communion)

Right there with ya Ganges....
Not a huge Pig fan, but I do love Two Souls....
Definitely my favorite Pig tune....5/26 (Stepping Out) is the one I know and like best!

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Poster: fireeagle Date: Oct 8, 2009 2:32am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The Stranger (Two Souls in Communion)

3-23 is my fav version by far
http://www.archive.org/details/gd1972-03-23.sbd.cantor-gans.field.20676.shnf
also a tremendous dark star, 1 of the best ever

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Poster: ghostofpig Date: Oct 8, 2009 8:18am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The Stranger (Two Souls in Communion)

I had the great fortune of catching the entire Academy run. The music of Fall '71 had matured as Keith was really a part of the band and Pig had returned to the fold--maybe not as strong as, say, 1970-71, but strong enough. "Two Souls" and "Empty Pages"--played only a handful of times in the summer of '71--demonstrated his potential as a fine writer. His songs came from the heart and expressed his raw understanding of the blues. And the band really put themselves out for Pig. Jerry's leads on both these songs are magic; Bill's drumming is understated and sublime, and the backing vocals--a lot more mellow than those good old "shine on me's" from 1969.

As to the Academy run--it gets overlooked as the Europe tour--perhaps their best--followed, But these warm up (and we need cash for Europe) shows were grand and deserve more exposure. A good Road Trips indeed.

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Poster: ganges Date: Oct 8, 2009 10:55am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The Stranger (Two Souls in Communion)

gop-haven't seen you in a LONG time, good to see you again!

thanks for the comments everyone

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Poster: SomeDarkHollow Date: Oct 8, 2009 11:03am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The Stranger (Two Souls in Communion)

I'll second that "good to see you again". I do miss our spirited exchanges of the past. Hope all is well and we'll see more of you.

As to the subject, yeah, that would be my fav Pig tune and aksi great to hear a first hand account of a live performance.

EDIT: "aksi"? what the hell is that? let's go with "also"

This post was modified by SomeDarkHollow on 2009-10-08 18:03:24

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Poster: ghostofpig Date: Oct 8, 2009 2:31pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The Stranger (Two Souls in Communion)

To me that period between March and May of 1972 was as good as it got if you take it as a whole. Obviously I feel that Pig was integral to the early psychedil-blues band. He added a dimension to the wierdness that both grounded the band and allowed them to explore an area of music that they never quite caught up with again. To this we add Keith, whose keyboards infor4emd their music so intensely that 1972--4 is often thought of as the pinnacle.

But in the sprinbg of 72, you've got a renewed sense of jamming on D.S., TOO, and, now, PITB--plus some shorter stuff like Birdsong. The musicians were reinvigorated--they'd honed their chops in 71, but they got their groove on in 72. And in the mix you still have Pig--whose swaggeer and voice added so much more. More taste. Less Filling. But never Lite.

God those Academy shows were phenominal.

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Oct 8, 2009 2:54pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The Stranger (Two Souls in Communion)

The old ghost, an exact thinker if ever there was one, never made so many apparently non-deliberate spelling mistakes. Maybe I'm seeing too much here, but what's up, Bill?

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Poster: ghostofpig Date: Oct 8, 2009 3:44pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The Stranger (Two Souls in Communion)

Not running spell check. My eyes are weakening, and I don't spot 'em like I used to.

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Oct 8, 2009 8:43am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The Stranger (Two Souls in Communion)

Wow.

First G o'P post in nearly a year. What happened? Did they change the locks on the kinder gentler place or are you just slumming it today? Whatever, it's really good to see you again.


So will you stop being skies now?

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Poster: skies Date: Oct 8, 2009 11:39am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The Stranger (Two Souls in Communion)

Nobody else can ever be me , Scotty ! You'll understand that too late ,probably ,na !

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Oct 8, 2009 12:32pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The Stranger (Two Souls in Communion)

skies - you're one of a kind. Long may you remain so.

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Poster: skies Date: Oct 8, 2009 3:16pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The Stranger (Two Souls in Communion)

What happened to you ,robthewordsmith, forgot to hate me today ?

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Oct 8, 2009 3:23pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The Stranger (Two Souls in Communion)

Did I ever, p'ti ciels?

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Poster: skies Date: Oct 9, 2009 11:36am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The Stranger (Two Souls in Communion)

If t is not you ,then it is your "brothers" ,as woud tell La Fontaine in the tale of the lamb and the wolves !

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Poster: ghostofpig Date: Oct 8, 2009 11:36am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The Stranger (Two Souls in Communion)

skies?


Actually, I don't post much over on the kinder, gentler place of flowers and doves.

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Oct 8, 2009 12:30pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The Stranger (Two Souls in Communion)

So, what have you been doing with yourself this past year? Glad to have you reply privately to the usual address if you feel so inclined.

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Poster: ghostofpig Date: Oct 8, 2009 4:07pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The Stranger (Two Souls in Communion)

Which of course I don't have! Lost all of that stuff when I changed servers.

Not much. Sold the orchid biz two years ago and am wasting time in the mountains of Georgia, a scant 12 miles from the Appalachian Trail. I'm doing volunteer work at a local literacy coalition, hiking, fighting a slow moving pulminary fibrosis, and enjoying life.

I assume you have listened to the Clash at Shea Stadium?

This post was modified by ghostofpig on 2009-10-08 23:07:37

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Oct 8, 2009 4:13pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The Stranger (Two Souls in Communion)

Seems I don't have yours either as I just had an email sent to the last address I had for you bounced back. Drop me a line courtesy of yahoo at the name above and we'll open up communications once more.

And yes, very much enjoyed Shea Stadium!


(.co.uk - not .com)

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Poster: ghostofpig Date: Oct 8, 2009 4:56pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The Stranger (Two Souls in Communion)

That was the only stadium concert I attended--and they blew away the Who.

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Poster: ghostofpig Date: Oct 8, 2009 7:23pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The Stranger (Two Souls in Communion)

email failed. Try me at orchiddoctor52@yahoo.com

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Oct 8, 2009 8:38am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The Stranger (Two Souls in Communion)

Gone too long - good to see you posting. Hope life is treating you well.

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Poster: ghostofpig Date: Oct 8, 2009 8:45am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The Stranger (Two Souls in Communion)

Thank you.

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Poster: elbow1126 Date: Oct 8, 2009 3:17am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The Stranger (Two Souls in Communion)

dead.net only credits Pigpen with writing 6 songs performed by the band and of these Two Souls would be my hands down favorite although I can't say that Tastebud is one i can remember. Probably because deadlists says it was played 1 time live in 1966.

Tastebud (1 time live)
Operator (4 times)
Mister Charlie (49 times)
Empty Pages (3 times)
Chinatown Shuffle (28 times)
The Stranger (Two Souls in Communion) (13 times)

Funny, of the 5 songs I am most familiar with, the two they played the most are my least favorite.

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